The OLIVERS

                                          1851 Census - England, Wiltshire

1841 Census - England, Wiltshire

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Today, I revised the Oliver research.  Joseph Oliver's parents were John Oliver and Sarah Fishlock who   were married Nov 10, 1823 in Calne, Wiltshire, England.   They had three sons before John's death (prior

to 1841) - Joseph (our ancestor), John and James.  They appear in the 1841 Census above and then in the 1851 above with their grandparents, James Oliver and Ann Carpenter. 

James and Ann were married Oct 25, 1802 at Calstone, Wellington, Wiltshire.  Ann was deceased by 1851. 

James parents were William Oliver and Mary Thomas who were married  June 7, 1767 in Calne, Wiltshire.  James was baptised Dec 25, 1772 in Calstone, Wellington, Wiltshire.

Joseph Oliver and Ellen Tubb

Click on map to enlarge - The area where the Olivers and Tubbs originated is between Swindon and Reading just south of the M4 highway and close to Hungerford.
Ramsbury, Wiltshire is NW of Hungerford;
Kintbury, Berkshire is SE of Hungerford;
Inkpen is south of Kintbury.
Calstone-Wellington, Wiltshire (Oliver) is SW of Swindon and west of Hungerford
These places are all within 15 miles of Hungerford, Berkshire.

We know that Mary Ellen Oliver (Mrs. John Peacock) was the eldest child of Joseph Oliver and Ellen **Tubb (**from M.E.'s death certificate), and that she was born in Markham, Ontario on February 9, 1858 when her mother was not quite twenty-four years old. Joseph's age fluctuates over the years. In the 1861 census, he stated that he was 4 years older than his wife. By 1891, the age difference was 11 years. Ellen's age was consistent in the census records.

And Mrs. Peacock's obituary states that her parents returned to England after her birth, probably about 1860 before the birth of George. They returned to Canada before the 1871 census was taken in Muskoka, as the family appears as Joseph and Ellen and five children. The census records confirm that all the Oliver children were born in England except Mary Ellen, the eldest, and John, the youngest son who was born May, 1874, and Grace Louise, the youngest daughter who was born in 1880.

Mary Ellen was baptised in England:

Mary Ellen Oliver, daughter of Joseph and Ellen
Born 9 Feb 1858Baptised - 9 Sept 1860, Inkpen, Berkshire, EnglandSource: IGI

The 1861 Census for Inkpen, Berkshire provides the following important information:
Address: Great Common - 1 house
Joseph Oliver, head, married, 31, agricultural labourer
b. Calston(e), Wiltshire
Ellen Oliver, wife, 27, born Kintbury, Berkshire
Mary Oliver, daughter, 3, born Canada
George Oliver, son, 8 months, born Inkpen, Berkshire
Joseph and Ellen's third child, Ada Matilda, was baptised in Amesbury, Wiltshire (this is close to Stonehenge). The family probably lived in Wiltshire until they returned to Canada sometime before 1871. The other baptisms in England have not been found.

Ada Matilda Oliver, daughter of Joseph and Ellen
Born 14 Jan 1864
Baptised - 1864 Amesbury, Wiltshire, England
Source: IGI
The TUBB Family

Ellen Tubb (Mrs. Joseph Oliver) was the daugher of George Tubb and Arabella Rosier who were married in Kintbury, Berkshire February 14, 1831. Ellen was baptised in Kintbury on March 16, 1834.

I have not found George Tubb in a census; however, Arabella appears in 1841, 1851 and 1861 census records.


1841 Census - Kintbury, Berkshire, England
Arabella Tubb, 45, dressmaker, b. Berkshire
James Rosier, 15, agricultural labourer, b. Berkshire
Thomas Rosier, 13, b. Berkshire (father 'Hopkins' on bap. 1827)
John Tubb, 9, b. Berkshire
Ellen Tubb, 7, b. Berkshire

1851 Census - Kintbury, Berkshire, England
Arabella Tubb, 56, widow, seamstress, b. Berkshire
John Tubb, 19, unm, agricultural labourer, b. Berkshire
Ellen Tubb, 17, seamstress, b. Berkshire
Thomas Rosier, 23, unm, potter's labourer, b. Berkshire

1861 Census - Kintbury, Berkshire, England
Richard Hill, 39, coachman, b. Wiltshire
Arabella Tubb, 64, servant/housekeeper, b. Berkshire

Arabella Tubb died in Hungerford District in 1871 at the age of 76.


George Tubb was the son of John Tubb and Mary Golding who were married in Kintbury on June 6, 1796. George was baptised in the same place on September 28, 1796.

Arabella Rosier was the daughter of Thomas and Mary Rosier. She was baptised in Kintbury, Berkshire November 2, 1794. (A Thomas Rosier married Mary Collier May 20, 1790 in Ramsbury, Wiltshire (NW of Hungerford). These may be Arabella's parents.) A brother, Silvanus Rosier, was baptised in Kintbury Dec 12, 1790 to a Thomas and Mary Rosier.

Joseph OLIVER & Ellen Tubb*

* I originally thought that Ellen's maiden name was Buker, as reported in an on-line transcript of the marriage of a son of Joseph and Ellen Oliver. However, the 1935 death record of Mary Ellen Oliver Peacock gives her mother's maiden name as Tubb. I wonder if Buker was someone's interpretation of handwriting. I will have to look at the original marriage record on ancestry.com, if possible.

1871 Census - Stephenson Township, Muskoka, Ontario

Joseph Oliver, head, m. 45, b. England, C of E, farmer
Ellen Oliver, wife, 37, B. England
Mary Oliver, 13, b. Ontario
George Oliver, 10, b. England
Eda (Ida) Oliver, 7, b. England
Thomas Oliver, 4, b. England
Joseph Oliver, 2, b. England

1881 Census -Stephenson Twp, Muskoka, Ontario

Joseph Oliver, m. 50, b, England, farmer
Ellen Oliver, f. 47, b. England
2. George Oliver, m. 20, B. England, son
3. Ada Matilda Oliver, f, 17, b. England, servant
4. Thomas Oscar Oliver, m. b. England, farmer
5. Joseph Pinckney Oliver, m, 12, b. England
6. John Oliver, m, 6, b. Ontario
7. Grace Louise Oliver, f. 1, b. Ontario,
All Church of England

By 1881, Mary Ellen, the eldest child of Joseph and
Ellen was already married. More information about
the Oliver family is listed below corresponding to
their birth order numbers.

2. b. July 16, 1862, England
=Celia ; lived at Beamsville, son Ray b. 1892

3. = ______ Patterson

4. b. April 10, 1866, England
unmarried in 1901, lived in Niagara Falls

5. b. Dec 21, 1868, England
= Emma Spencer (d. 1944)
d. 25 Feb 1954
(Sadie Mann's parents)
buried at Falkenburg Union Cem.

6. b. May 25, 1875, Ontario
= Alice Gohm, 7 Dec 1904
in Welland in 1911 census

7. b. 1880 Ontario

1891 Census - Stephenson Twp
Joseph Oliver, 68, b. England, C of E, Farmer
Ellen Oliver, 57, b. England
Joseph Oliver, 22, b. England
John Oliver, 16, b. England (? - born Ontario)

Death of Joseph P. Oliver
b. abt 1823 - died April 22, 1892, 69 years old
Farmer, born England, Cause of death - heart failure, 4 hours
Registrar - Daniel Bain(?)

1901 Census - Stephenson Twp.
Ellen Oliver, 67, head, widowed, b. Feb 23, 1834
John Oliver, 26, son, b. May 25, 1874

Death of Ellen Oliver, 70 years, 9 mos
b. about 1834, died December 8, 1904, Bracebridge
born Berkshire, England, - housewife, C of E
Cause of death - cancer of the liver, 4 months
Dr. J. Francis Williams

Who were the OLIVERS?

A Mystery Solved

Oral history in the Peacock family preserved the information that
the Oliver family came from ‘Stoneing’ in England. Several cursory
attempts to find this place produced no results. The other piece of
information (recorded in her obituary) was that Mary Ellen Oliver
had been born in Ontario. For this reason, the International
Genealogical Index was never checked for her birth. Recently, the
index was checked for her siblings, some of whom were born in
England, and two baptisms, extracted from parish registers,
were found:

Mary Ellen Oliver, daughter of Joseph and Ellen
Born 9 Feb 1858
Baptised - 9 Sept 1860, Inkpen, Berkshire, England

Ada Matilda Oliver, daughter of Joseph and Ellen
Born 14 Jan 1864
Baptised - 1864 Amesbury, Wiltshire, England

While Mary Ellen was born in Ontario, she was indeed baptized
in England. This provides two locations not far from each
other in bordering counties. Click on the title of this article and
the map of England which will appear will show Inkpen,
Berkshire as a red dot. Amesbury, Wiltshire is nine miles north
of Salisbury.

Amesbury is about two miles east of the prehistoric monument,
Stonehenge which would seem to be consistent with the oral
history providing ‘Stoneing’ as the origin of the Oliver family.
The mystery has been solved.

Click on this link for more information about Stonehenge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehenge